fallinditch
It can become a compulsion to record and collect media. Seems like a male thing, normally it's blokes who create these archives.

I met a bloke once in the 90's who made recordings on to C-90 tapes of anything interesting that was on BBC Radio 4 and 3, and he found most things interesting. He was surrounded by piles, thousands of tapes everywhere and he was desperately trying to catalog everything. As I spoke to him he was listening to the radio via an ear bud, whilst also recording the radio. He was supposed to be moving out of his house that day, having just exchanged contacts, but he was drowning in his precious tapes. His wife seemed pretty p**d off with him.

I was a bit compulsive myself. I used to buy records, then CDs, and I also made tapes of albums, and recordings of the John Peel show. It was a problem to shift 100s of records and CDs and boxes of tapes whenever I moved house. I lightened my load by giving everything away apart from the Peel tapes which were the most entertaining items in the whole collection, it actually felt good. I kept hold of the Peel tapes for some years, even though my tape deck had died. There were some great shows from the 90s! But then I had to downsize again so I took them to the rubbish tip, even that didn't make me sad.

Ultimately, having and keeping stuff just weighs you down.

zdw
Probably the highest quality retrieval is with: https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode

which reads the raw data off a variety of tape formats and converts it to video. Grew out of the domesday project for lasterdiscs

doganugurlu
I am shocked that no one is talking about Teletext! I am guessing it wasn’t a thing in US or I am the oldest person to comment so far?

I had forgotten that Teletext existed until this post. And for those who know about BBSs, Teletext was the closest thing before modems.

I don’t remember seeing the wild Teletext Ascii art etc. as seen in the post though. UK seems to have had mad Teletext.

natch
Talk to the Internet Archive. They don't just take internet stuff.

If you go to their web page that describes what they do and do not accept, don't go by that. It can be, and has been, wrong in the past including the recent past (this year).

Instead, try to get in touch with them by email. They might accept these as a donation.

You still have the problem of how to pay for the mailing. Just trying to get you one step closer to a solution.

There's no promise they will digitize it immediately, or even ever. But they might take it and then there will at least be a potential path to digitization.

QuadrupleA
Probably an age-old theme, but as a guy now in my 40s, it's humbling and a little sad to see how many things that were so vital, alive, and relevant in my childhood (and past eras) that are now dead and almost gone from the collective memory.

As the Buddha said, all is impermanent.

yboris
Once you digitize them, you'll want to browse the videos. Consider using Video Hub App - an MIT open source application (Windows, Mac, Linux) that shows you screenshots (that you can scrub through) from each video.

https://videohubapp.com/

https://github.com/whyboris/Video-Hub-App

gcj
This reminded me of a friend who has a very serious form of cancer. His monitor died, so I decided to give him one as a gift, since he spends all his time at home doing nothing.

I went with my girlfriend to deliver it and I reminded he used to tape and catalog F1 races and other stuff. I asked if he was watching one of these types and he proceeded to open a large cabinet and give us a tour of his meticulously catalogued and tagged 70's and 80's porn collection.

caboteria
I would imagine that the Archive Team would be interested in these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_Team
magicseth
Just as shipwrecks before the advent of nuclear bombs are a source of low background radiation, troves of content like this are low-ai-contamination sources of guaranteed human media.

I suspect they might someday be valuable :-)

keybits
Includes a fascinating story of how teletext images can be recovered from VHS recordings using a TV capture card.
schwartzworld
I have a neighbor who has this problem with bootleg audio cassettes. Concert recordings mostly. I keep begging him to back them up to digital and even gave him a little usb interface he could do it with.

He talks about this collection with such pride, it’s hard for me to imagine not future proofing at least your favorite ones, but there’s no convincing some people.

urbandw311er
One of the major broadcasters like C4 might be intersted. Potentially there may even be some valuable deleted old shows on those tapes, like a lost episode of something.
jwagenet
I’m somewhat baffled as to what is taking so long to at least digitize the tapes. He alludes to perhaps some more steps than just pressing play, but it seems to me the workload could be broken up by focusing on recording the tape data and dealing with the digital editing later to eliminate the physical tape problem.
lambdaone
You might want to try the UK national archives:

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

or get in touch with the enthusiast community, people like

https://www.nathanmediaservices.co.uk/ceefax/

You should ensure whoever you give them to can give you a binding commitment to use for legitimate archival purposes, and not just acquire them and sit on them for copyright reasons.

wwader
Reminds me of the documentary Kim's video https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24132144/ recommended!
ForOldHack
Write the names of 40 tapes a day, for two months. Take breaks. PUBLISH the results. I used to collect 45s, until I found an MP3. Then after 3 ISPs, I no longer needed the 45s. I NEED THE LIST OF THEM.
burningChrome
I held onto my CD collection for various reasons but the main one was my car - the 2014 Toyota Corolla was the last year they still had a CD player. All of the new cars either have Apple or Android streaming, but there's just something that isn't the same. The album art, the liner notes you can read, sometimes photos of the band or lyrics. My son now has the car, so it might be time to cast off my collection.

I thought about starting a streaming service to play some of the music I have from many of the local bands who've graced the Minneapolis music scene, many of whom no longer exist. There's also a ton of bands from the early aughts that are no longer around that I also have from when I worked in the local record store. Going to shows and being emersed the local music scene was all I cared about back then.

Then I start to think about the copyright issues of playing this stuff on a streaming service and instead of something nostalgic, I was caught up in the idea if its even legal to do.

SoftTalker
"my VCR has remained on standby mode, the tapes in their boxes, gathering dust."

At some point you just have to admit that they are useless and throw them away. Whatever it is, if it's been in the garage or basement for years and you don't use it and haven't dealt with it, get rid of it. Just knowing the stuff is there is a nagging mental irritant, and it won't go away until you get rid of the stuff.

Nobody wants old VHS tapes. Try to put them on eBay, it will just be another huge project you'll never finish and you'll maybe cover the shipping costs.

Throw them away.

Refalm
Send them all to http://www.everythingisterrible.com/

They collect all VHS tapes.

pastage
There are people who put old VHS on Youtube that seems to be a pretty gruesome job. See Swedish achivist https://www.youtube.com/@RosaMannen

Interesting that you can get Teletext from the VHS, and sad that it is now lost after conversion to a youtube video.

WalterBright
2000 tapes at 6 hours each, 12,000 hours. You can record them for about a gig an hour, so it ought to fit in 12 terabytes.

Doing one tape a night, it'll take 6 years of calendar time. 3 years if you buy a dedicated computer to do it, at two tapes a day.

The good news is that's calendar time, not your time, which is pressing "record" on your computer and "play" on the VHS machine.

aEJ04Izw5HYm
Well done @keybits for reaching out for help. Another option is that you could split the workload between 3-4 data archivists and start a separate archive until it finds a better home. Personally I don't have the time for this but more people might have the time for a 1 year effort if you were to provide your setup. A few other archivists have been suggested on this thread. Perhaps they would take a portion rather than the whole responsibility, it could be pretty cool to have a bi-monhtly catch up with others with the same hobby and who would all be eager to share their discoveries!
cj
Side note: any recommendations for digitization services for ~80 mini DV tapes?

Currently planning to try out LegacyBox, but the reviews are mixed.

lesuorac
I am very surprised at how many recording programs / devices don't have an option to auto-stop on black. It's a real pain to have to hit record / stop and would be so much nicer to just start and when it stays black for like 1 minute just auto-stop.
protocolture
Post them to the BBC with a note saying you never paid for your TV license and you never will.
silisili
There's a guy who I see on Twitter often, who has replied here but as a new account, named Brian Roemmele. See if you can get in contact with him, he may be interested in it.
failedartifact
I would recommend reaching out to the Wellcome Trust, London. https://wellcome.org/
kmoser
On a related note, I know somebody who owns a complete run of PHOTO magazine (the original French edition) and is looking to donate them. First published in the 1960s, with approximately 10 issues per year, his collection has approximately 580 issues. Contact me if you know an individual or organization that would be interested.
brunoqc
Drop them in front of the Red Letter Media warehouse in the middle of the night.
stickfigure
Maybe I'm wrong, but I would assume that in the 1990s to 2000s studios were better about archiving production data, and there aren't likely to be "lost episodes" in this stash?
douglee650
Send in to southtree or similar service, get tapes plus an SSD with digital files back

Run through AI and ask to transcribe, summarize, and catalog an index

Store in secure S3 bucket or NAS

Create a website/blog post with ask for access

schappim
James should donate it to the UK’s version of Australia’s: https://youtube.com/@davidthegreen
PaulHoule
Funny but VHS is probably the most accessible obsolete medium. This place

https://ithacareuse.org/

sells decks for about $12 and Ebay prices aren't much more. Most TVs still have a composite in that will work great, and that place sells prerecorded tapes for about $2. Audio quality on VHS is surprisingly good and really pops with Dolby Pro Logic on my AV receiver.

Such a deck is likely to work just fine. Contrast that to a cassette deck which often has problems a lot worse than old belts. I have been looking for one of those because my son's 96 Buick came with a broken stereo and he eventually found a working OEM stereo that had a tape player but no CD player. (He really wants a copy of Deltron 3030)

After trying a few $20 decks I found locally I gave up and spent 10x that on Ebay. Blank tapes are more expensive than minidiscs in lots from Japan although prerecorded cassettes are cheap and abundant, he's already got more that he can keep in the car.

(If it were my car I'd get one of those minidisc players from Japan that looks like it came out of a Gundam...)

pfdietz
Throw them out.

When my dad died, he had accumulated hundreds of tapes of movies from cable. What was I to do with them? I didn't want to watch them, and selling them would have violated copyright laws. I wasn't going to go erase them to try to sell blank tapes which had little value.

8bitsrule
If they're commercially-recorded tapes (labelled with entertainment value), then a thrift-store chain might extract some value. (That's what I did with my eclectic vinyl collection.)

If they're empty or a random collection of this-and-that programs, then they might sell them at low prices to people who still have VHS machines and need the tape. (I'd imagine new tapes are scarce and expensive.)

krisgenre
I had quite a few episodes of "Johnny Sokko and his flying robot" recorded on VHS and also of one interesting TV series about a group of children living all by themselves in an old caravan (the opening credits shows them jumping through a hole in a fence). My mom gave them all away long back but even now I miss them :(
night862
You can send them to YouTube user “Dr VHS Rip” if you wish. He digitizes all manner of vhs. All manner except porn I think.
ianbooker
My first job was to write news to teletext for German public broadcast. It required the author to compact even complex news into essentially two old tweets (I think around 300 characters) and deliver some context. Very good training!
throw21111972
I put all our home videos from the 80s on youtube https://www.youtube.com/@ashodapakian2788/videos
npunt
Whenever I see old low res grainy footage like this I wonder how well the latest image gen & AI can restore it
dailykoder
I often asked myself, and so did just a few days ago, we archive so much of the internet. Just look at how huge the internet archive is, but do we actually need to do that? Why would we need all of that to save "the contents for posterity"?

On the one hand I do believe that there might be some bits which might be nice to have in 50 years, but we generate so incredibly much content and it only gets more. Shouldn't we just get rid of most of it someday? It was fun, it did it's purpose, but it's okay if we forget about it. Sure, now you could argue we did that for a long long time, just look at all the anchient libraries, but our content is exponentially growing. How much trash will we have archived in 50 years?

FloatArtifact
For home, VHS, I wonder if there's an open source model to help denoise and reconstruct her levels of detail.
BrianRoemmele
I will encourage you to save them. I use them to train local AI models.
iancmceachern
There are whole YouTube channels where people buy random tapes like this and watch them. I'd say donate or sell them to one of those folks.
ingen0s
I recall there was a kid somewhere on the interent who got some fame for collecting Titan VHS tapes and has a garage full of them, you both should hook up.
punnerud
As long as you have them you are allowed to keep a digital copy as well? Can you also rent out your digital copy?
iamthejuan
If those ate not copyrighted materials then I think it can be monetized as a content.
savrajsingh
Is it possible to rent a well maintained hi8 8mm player and digitize old videos?
agumonkey
p0w3n3d

  2000 old
Sounds old
lynx23
Send them to Red Letter Media :-), or find a landfill near you...
dudeinjapan
Build a VHS tape pyramid and charge people $3 to see it. duh.
airstrike
Don't miss Pete's comment on that post. Such a cool YT channel!
Log_out_
Make a deep time capsule? concrete, inert gas?
BiteCode_dev
Make a TV console out of them.
flykespice
I read that as 2000 year old VHS tapes somehow...
dnel
oh my that video promoting Gary Glitter going on Live and Kicking made me feel very uncomfortable
Animats
1-800-GOT-JUNK
JTbane
Hot take- VHS has terrible quality, I just watched some old animated tapes from my childhood and they look bad. Thank goodness for DVD remasters.
fithisux
Upload to youtube
bofadeez
Send them to the Victorville Film Archive care of film buff Gregg Turkington.
zeroonetwothree
rm -rf
consumerx
digitize -> vectorize
paulcole
Throw them away!
Molitor5901
eBay! My brother used to tape bicycle races and has hundreds of them. He's been blanking them and selling them on eBay for about $5 each.
atum47
You can boil the tape and make some tea; so I've heard.

This is a joke, please don't do that.

rkhassen9
Got any Dr Who episodes? There are some that have never been recovered though the era may not match. People are looking for em! I wonder what other niche collections are desperately missing specific things.
profsummergig
AI solves this. Get AI to consume the lot and store it somewhere.

Then, in the future, query the AI to find out if a specific piece of footage (that you need) is contained therein.