soheiljs
100d ago
AnimalMuppet
If the physical universe is all there is, no (for anything that I consider a reasonable definition of free will).

If the physical universe - matter and the laws of physics - is all that exists, then all you can be is matter that obeys the laws of physics. You're atoms that obey the laws of atomic physics, making up biochemicals that obey the laws of biochemistry, making up neurons that obey the laws of neurology. There's no room there for you to have free will. There is no way for you to make a non-determined choice. Worse, there's no room there for you to be a person. You're just a very complicated machine, and nothing more.

Yes, there is quantum uncertainty at the lower levels of this machinery. That doesn't give you free will, though, because you don't control the quantum uncertainty. It controls you (or at least your atoms, to some degree).

Yes, I know, compatibilism. That makes free will and physical determinism compatible by making "free will" into something less than what I think true free will is.

So, no, true free will is not possible - if the physical universe is all there is. Neither is true personality possible.

gnatman
What difference does it make? There was a great line in a recent New Yorker article about free will / determinism, and compatibilism.

>>All these modes of explanation tell us, in various ways, that people are causal systems, enmeshed in larger ones. But, from a first-person perspective, we’re seldom inclined to wait around to see what the system does when we’re faced with a decision. Instead, we do what even Sapolsky finds himself compelled to do—we get on with things and open the kitchen cupboard to decide (or, anyway, “decide”) what kind of tea we’re going to have.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/13/determined-a-s...

keiferski
Read this: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/

The most popular position on this topic amongst philosophers is this: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/compatibilism/

Compatibilism is the thesis that free will is compatible with determinism.

aristofun
Anyone who claims knowing the answer with any degree of certainty is either profiting from the answer or is not educated enough to know that this question is first a philosophical one.

But even in purely materialistic framework it can not be answered because “will” is a non materialistic concept.

In terms of my personal life experience and beliefs - this is what uniquely distinguishes people from other animals.

We are the only species who can proactively choose rather than just instinctively react.

Quinzel
I’m a hard determinist, so I think no, free will is not possible.

I think the illusion of free will comes from having self-awareness.

Still, even as a hard determinist, when I go about my day, making “my choices”, I believe I am consciously deciding, I would even go as far as to say that I have a strong internal locus of control. It’s only when I stop to think about it, that I always end up deciding that nothing I’ve done is the result of pure free will, and rather it’s very much determined by things way beyond my control.

vunderba
I wrote a paper several years ago collecting all of my personal thoughts around what I believe are fundamental physiological constraints on the domain of "free will".

While I tried to keep it within the realm of the layman's understanding, there may be some subtle points that may be a bit difficult to understand.

https://specularrealms.com/genetic-freedom

hiAndrewQuinn
Qualia's a mysterious enough thing that I've settled on "sure, why not".

The fact that we experience things in a universe where there's no apparent need for any of it is just so weird compared to everything else that it renders most philosophical questions impossible to answer with much certainty.

andrei_says_
Free from genetics, conditioning, current biological state (tired? Rested? Low blood sugar? Need to use the restroom?), emotional state (enraged? Calm? Scared?), of current mental state (thoughts are completely spontaneous), or a preference or desire we have (we don’t choose our likes or wants)?

Is it possible that our words and actions a function of the above?

If we unpack “free will” wouldn’t we end up with a similar list?

illuminant
It is not that will cannot be influenced, manipulated, fooled, questionably informed, or even controlled; free will is the uncoherced determination of resolve in the moment of now.

The uncoherced determination of resolve in the moment of now is the precious freedom of will worth living, dying, and fighting over.

chilling
Just watch the Kurzgesagt on that matter[0].

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UebSfjmQNvs&pp=ygUVZnJlZSB3a...

solardev
Probably not, but your DNA gives you good enough prompts to fake it.
nbernard
True free will? No. Agency? Yes.

(Proof left as an exercise to the reader).

dave4420
Depends on what you mean by “true free will” really.
ddgflorida
Yep
soheiljs
if everything the neurons in our brains do is just reacting.
Lionga
Nope
muzani
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