- comfier grip
- shorter tip length and presumably a more solid feel (the pinecil's mechanical interface to the tip is pretty loose-feeling)
- higher power over usb-c (actually can't think of a time I've needed more than 60W for hobby stuff, but I can imagine use cases like large ground planes)
- storage cap (this is a major improvement for working in a temporary, tight space)
All of these would be worth the price increase over pinecil, but unfortunately I think the lack of on-iron temperature settings is a dealbreaker. The pinecil in my toolbag is practically the size of a sharpie and works with my existing usb-c cables and batteries with no extra space taken up, and the killer feature (portability) is broken once you need a proprietary battery or a laptop to change temperature.
[0] https://pine64.com/product/pinecil-smart-mini-portable-solde...
I don't want this. I would rather push a button and wait for a light to turn on. Automatic off, fine, I guess, though I don't love it and would never want to rely on it. Automatic on, no way.
I was initially skeptical about the cap vs. a traditional stand until I saw that it mounts to the side of the battery pack to double as a stand. I like that idea!
Also, is there documentation on the serial protocol used in case someone wanted to write a temperature control program that didn't rely on a webapp?
Plus
* 5 secs to temp. * Heat resistant, vented cap. * User can change auto idle and sleep times.
Minus
* Need iFixit power station or computer to change temp and other settings. * No temp indicator on the iron. No mention if the LED indicates it's reached set temp.
I'd love to keep a small, lightweight, high-quality portable iron in my tool bag ready for quick repairs. It needs to heat fast and be instantly capped and tossed back in the tool bag without waiting for cool down. However, I don't want to carry the iFixit power bank in my small tool bag. Yet without it, I'd need to pull out a laptop to change temp. And I do need to change temp enough for that to be annoying. Especially when there USB irons which have temp readouts and controls on the device. While cheap, those irons generally don't get to temp in 5 secs, have a well-thought out heat resistant cap and aren't high-quality.
$110 cad for the soldering iron is semi-reasonable, if a bit high compared to their competitors. $342 for the iron + battery means that's a $230 battery pack, which is absolutely insane.
Requiring the battery pack to be able to easily change controls means anyone doing more than super basic work, needs the $342 combo.
Why no boost button (unless I missed it)? That's the one on-iron UI feature I'd be missing - very useful for GND planes. I'm guessing its not a matter of rated power, but just the thermal resistance from the physical size of the tip which restricts heat entering into a heavily-heatsinked joint. Helpful to increase the iron temperature momentarily for such cases. Then again, I can't see heat transfer - happy to be told I'm wrong.
Is this your own tip design or is it the same as the TS80? Can't speak to the TS80 but I've found the TS100 tip quality to be somewhat lacking (I've had tips plainly break off before).
Anyway it's good to have an option that's cheaper than the big names but presumably built to a higher standard than an AliExpress special, and has an actual warranty and safety certifications.
The station has a hot air gun and a solder vacuum, so it's far more suitable for use on the bench due to those capabilities.
The Pinecil plugs into the Anker power bank that I carry with me everywhere anyhow, and runs basically forever on it. The UI took a day or so to get used to, but it's simple and straightforward enough for field use. I've even used it for bigger jobs on trucks and tractors in the past, and it didn't miss a beat.
If this was available back when I got a Pinecil and PowerWheels Ryobi adapter [1], I would have been severely tempted to spend 400% more.
0. https://www.ifixit.com/products/fixhub-soldering-toolkit
1. https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinecil_Power_Supplies#Tool_Bat...
But the full station price is kind of outrageous. I got my Thermaltronics TMT-2000S for less, and that's a monster. But then again, I don't have to use their battery, I can use my $70 Ugreen one.
My one concern about the cap is: I worry that someone with bad depth perception will poke their hand with a hot iron when trying to cap it...
Unless you're somewhere out in the wilderness, finding an outlet to do any on the road repairs is pretty trivial and you don't need to lug around a large heavy box that does grid to USB-C DC conversion nor a powerbank.
The health issue with leaded solder is primarily ingestion. the lead particles get all over the place so wash your hands after and maybe change your clothes. And definitely don’t keep and food or water nearby, cus it’ll get on that and you’ll eat it!
after a few days trying to turn that into a daily driver however, i've had to go back to my weller desktop station, for one weird reason: i dont have anywhere to put the hot iron in between uses!
i dont know if it's just me, but my work cadence involves me using my soldering iron about 30-40 times over the course of an hour or so, for about 3-4 seconds each time. sometimes i'm soldering a row of headers, or just one or two joints, but then theres 3-4 minutes where i'm moving wires around or programming something quickly, and i dont want to wait for the tip to cool each time so i can set it somewhere and work on the board a bit, if I can just leave it in a safe place while hot, which my weller always had.
I got one of those bent sheet metal desktop 'holders', but the iron is so light compared to the cable, there's no way it's not falling off the table at some point.
https://fanttik.com/products/fanttik-t1-max-soldering-iron-k...
Why hellishly-complex USB-C with its effete tiny-pinned connectors instead of a plain old robust barrel jack? And requiring software instead of a simple analog feedback loop? Software which could fail and cause runaway heating is never a good idea.
Soldering irons have always been quite repairable, especially the simple ones:
https://320volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/yihua-hakko-9...
Is that the case, or did I misunderstand?
They seem to have gotten so caught up in the "things should be repairable" that they've forgotten the true thing most people care about is, "I shouldn't have to replace my stuff". They are acting like parts salesmen, not consumer advocates.
$200(? looks like you get the iron when you buy the power supply) would be a fair price for the base if it allowed me to charge and use any 6 18650s(bonus points if it can accept a variety of cell sizes) as a power bank and had circuitry to do pass through as well as charging. It would also be nice if you could use it charge batteries to a specified amount, and use custom charge patterns. Considering this is iFixit, it should also have a way to use it as a DC power supply as well. $250 for a glorified power brick is pathetic.
This is just a luxury gewgaw
Ifixit fails to produce good tools because all they've done in the last 5 years is coast on their bit sets. They're not people who actually work with these tools. If they were the LTT screwdriver wouldn't have needed to be built.
Hundreds of dollars for what is done for $50 is a clear example of attempting to turn ifixit into a brand that sells tools not a tool designer that sells effective solutions.
On one hand, you're competing with "you're in the middle of a field and there exist no power outlets nearby" optimized irons, and you're offering some nicer features like 100W usb-c, but I don't think this is a field where one cares very much about the quality of their iron. I've fixed drones with the shittiest of usb-c irons, and I've done it with a pinecil, and when you're hunched over in a field, it frankly does not matter.
On the other hand, it seems you're also trying to compete in at-a-workbench soldering, a class in which your price point is simply never going to work for what you offer. You're being outclassed by half as expensive stationary stations, even more so when you consider that they don't use proprietary tips. My 40€ AliExpress special station came with 3 tips, heats up in 2 seconds, and offers about the same experience as your several hundred dollars one, at the supposed cost of repairability (I haven't come across an iron that doesn't work ever. I suspect it would be a comparable fix.)
I agree that changing temperature is generally not done super often but I would have loved to see a ring adjustment for temperature.
Overall, compared to the competition, I am not sure how much people would be willing to pay the much higher cost just for promise of quality and high heating capacity which is not as big of a edge that iFixit seems to think in my opinion.
But I applaud the effort of trying to make something new and different in a crowded and competitive space.
The soldering iron is only US$80, but the battery is US$250.[1]
Not shipping yet, still in pre-order. Does iFixit have enough manufacturing capacity to satisfy demand? This should be on DigiKey.
[1] https://www.ifixit.com/products/fixhub-power-series-portable...
I love my iFixit screwdriver kits and I support their mission, but this thing is preposterous.
Webserial and such makes for a cool tech demo, but I just want portable soldering with standard field-replaceable batteries.
Installed IronOS on it and it got even better…!
Though I already own a pinecil, I don't think I'll switch especially with the additional tips I already got.
Will there be other tip shapes available?
Is the tip design patented (and enforced) or will you allow for 3rd party tips?
I have two Quecoo soldering stations : https://www.quecoo.com/products/quecoo-t12-956-soldering-dig...
They're very cheap, they heat up just as quickly as any other induction iron. They are very repairable. They come with multiple tips, which are cheap to replace.
They don't contain expensive batteries or pointless USB-C WebSerial-based interfaces. You turn them on. They heat up. I've had mine for years, so they're reliable too.
iFixIt have a laudable mission generally, but this product will be an expensive failure.
Edit: never mind £240 is actually for the battery powered version
I was wondering if it requires a 100W PD supply, but according to the manual everything with at least 20W should work.
I have a very primitive old iron (and a gun, which I seldom have a use for).
etc. etc.
If you are into soldering, do yourself a favour and buy something tried and trusted like Hakko FX-951 if you are on the budget. It will probably outlast you.
Pros:
1. "Portable, sorta"
2. Reasonably high-power
3. Has an accelerometer (as does everything else in its class)
4. "Repairable"
Cons:
1. No Hall effect sensor to detect when iron is placed in holder
2. A walled single-source garden of soldering tips that doesn't even exist yet instead of using commodity COTS parts
3. The fucking temperature control is fucking paywalled behind a proprietary USB power bank. What in the fuck? (And no, it is not possible to create an argument that will persuade me to think that this is an improvement. (Yes, I know that it can be programmed; this changes nothing.))
4. Expensive.
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I'll just stick with my Pinecil iron. It gets all of these things right. If it breaks (I haven't broken a soldering iron yet in over three decades of trying), I'll fix it or buy another one.
I mean: For the $250 this iFixit product costs (including the paywalled temperature control), I will be able to buy several lifetimes of worth of Pinecil irons.
It's got batteries in it. Is it really going to last longer than something that runs on AC with no chips in it?
If your experience with soldering is one of those cheap flimsy $30 dollar things from Amazon paired with fat, chunky solder… yeah you will hate soldering and you’ll never get even remotely good results. You don’t need to spend $500 dollar or anything but something like what is in this post and a $40 roll of thin gauge solder (which will last the rest of your life) will make soldering actually fun and enjoyable.
…I should also mention a solid, heavy parts holder factors into this as well.